SHADOW

I think that part of the reason this isn't getting a ton of random 4 post guys yelling at danoid is because it's hidden here in the 360 section. If it was on the general thread I think things may have gotten a little uglier.

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The Benny (Macho)

Indeed, I thought the first post would provoke a much angrier response than it got, so well done everybody.

I think opsdaddy is pretty much talking sense. The PS3 has much more room to grow because of its complicated architecture. I wouldn't say the 360 has peaked yet because even on its more simpler architecture developers are going to improve at what they've been doing and squeeze extra performance out of the system, but I do think it could hit its max long before the PS3 does.


Of course, if the hardware market remains as fractured as it currently is we're still going to have third-party games dictated by the weaker system, which makes it significantly less relevant.

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The Benny (Macho)

Eurogamer have a fresh face-off up, and there's very little difference again.

HAWX has better image quality but worse framerate in the cockpit view, the PS3 version has less smooth image quality and fewer bloom effects but a greater draw distance.
Battle Fantasia had nothing between them, being a tiny game that doesn't tax either system.
50 Cent: Blood on the Sand has more tearing on the 360 and an unnecessary blur filter on the PS3, and that's about it.
The Wheelman has AA (anti-aliasing, not the UK breakdown service) on the 360 and not on the PS3, and while both versions tear frames the PS3 does it more often.
Godfather II has a slightly lower resolution and a less consistent framerate on PS3.
Wanted: Weapons of Fate runs at sub-HD on both consoles, the 360 has screen tear which the PS3 does not, and the PS3 has better/more specular maps for shiny surfaces.
Red Alert 3 has a few little touches on PS3 to make it slightly better, with the video sequences looking slightly worse than on the 360.

So yes, there's not much in it these days. 50 Cent, Wheelman, Wanted and Red Alert all require installs on the PS3, which is probably something developers should be able to avoid by now.

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Ricochet

Agreed to the posters that the topic didn't ignite a "flame" war as the direction it was intended to. However, I would like to point out some inconsistencies to "daniod" (in a normal non-fanboyish manner).

To begin with, you claim that Microsoft will be bringing on "better" looking exclusives than Killzone 2. That statement in itself showcased Killzone 2 as the "benchmark" for graphics and was basically left untouched, yet. However, you followed up by saying that the 360 has "better" graphics because of an old comparison thread between ports. So either you're claiming that the games on the 360 have YET to beat Killzone 2 in graphics or it has already been taken over. Which is it?

If you want to argue about graphics, then it's logical to take the "best" looking games on the PS3 to compare with the best looking games on the 360. Exclusives are the only ones that fall in this category as of yet. But as you have stated from the beginning:



From that point, you just admitted "as-of-yet" that the 360 has not produced a better graphical game meaning the PS3 wins.

Had this been in other section of the thread with huge traffic, your posts will be bashed for good. Luckily, there are a some mature minded people here in this thread.

*tip: be a little more consistent with your post.

CrazyIrishBoy

I havnt read any previous post or anything but,
1. What has pictures got anything to do with how good the game is.
2. These are so old!
3. I clicked on the first link and took a look at the pictures, every single ps3 photo seemed to be simply brightened to be made look worse, if the brightness had of been took down a notch or two they would have been incomparable, cant say anything for the other links, didnt look at them, couldnt be bothered.
4. Do you realize out of all the gamers in the world, how small of a percentage care about minor differences like this? Sorry, but if you think alot do, your a retard sir.
5. Its not all about graphics.
6. I dont like people like you.
7. I had to laugh when you said they have exclusives that are gonna surpass games like KZ2 and uncharted but they will be just as good as gears of war and halo... to me that makes no sense what so ever.
8. Think about what your posting, could you not have kept your opinion to yourself about something so minor.

Ricochet

HAHAAHAH, I can't help but laugh at your comment. Anyways I want to re-iterate a few points with your list.

4. I agree however, the impact it made is huge. Meaning that it has promoted the "notion" that the PS3 ported games will tend to look inferior (regardless of the minor changes), this is more than enough leverage for an average gamer to warrant a purchase to a 360 instead of the PS3.

5. It is now, if you look at my response to #4, you'll see what I mean. Naturally, the graphics does not make the game (I understand that), but this is an entirely different argument altogether. The graphics is a "showcasing" material as proof of the Hardware capabilities, in layman's terms "a benchmark". This will pave the way for doubters who question the hardware's limit.

Take Epic games for example, they claimed that Gears of War is IMPOSSIBLE for the PS3, hence the exclusivity for the 360. Then you've got games like MGS4, Uncharted and Killzone 2 looking better and play better than gears, and now they did a 180' said the PS3 hasn't reached "potential" yet (right after Killzone 2 was released).

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7. I understand what you're trying to say but I think you've said it yourself on comment #5, Graphics don't make the game so (Great graphics is not equal to great games). So he's basically talking about a great graphical game with AAA title value. I believe English may not be his first language so I wasn't trying to be aggressive to him as he may have a few communication issues here.

8. True, the argument between graphics between the PS3 and 360 ended when the "Microsoft spokesperson" pointed out that future 360 exclusives will look better than Killzone 2. Need I say anymore?

The Benny (Macho)

I think Gears of War is actually a Microsoft franchise, so it's not up to Epic. I don't think there's any other reason Gears couldn't be on the PS3, being UE3 and everything.

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Sir Shak

Thank you for opening my eyes . I was just waiting for some random internet user to tell me how much better the sleek and sexy 360 is than the fat and ugly PS3 .

farfus

Daniod was a flash in the pan fanboy, not dumb, just noticeably one directional. Once he got his point across he disappeared quickly...

Vision-Divine

Regardless of Graphics a Playstation 2 game will always play better than any sequel to most next gen 3rd party sequels

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