dillonthebunny

ahhh, Lunar!!


ever in to the Arc games?


I never played Hack, but it was always meant to be cool.

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farfus

I think i have a copy of Dark Cloud 2 sitting around, may just check it out, i was one of the original big fans of the original and have only heard good of the second, will definitely grab FFXII fer sure....

kazriko

Let me toss out a few PS2 RPGs that you might have missed here if you've played all the ones listed.

Grandia 3. If you like Lunar, this series is the spiritual successor to it. The battle system is astounding in its depth. Skip Grandia Xtreme though, it's extremely repetitive and gets dull. Grandia 2 is good too, but the Dreamcast version is superior to the PS2 one.

Wild Arms 4. I almost skipped this one due to how awful WA3 was, but WA4 is by far my favorite in the entire series. The Hex system really revitalizes the game. WA5 is decent, but not quite as good.

Rogue Galaxy. It's on the long side, but is quite a bit of fun.

Suikoden 3 & 5. 4 was rightfully panned, but the other two PS2 incarnations are solid. Suikoden 3's storyline is excellent and multifaceted. I've only gone a small way into S5's storyline, but I enjoy it so far.

As for FF10, I thought it took 2 years before it was released in the US. I'm kind of expecting the RPGs to really pick up mid 2008. I can't wait to see what NIS-A, Atlus, and Xseed bring over next year.

Ben D.

That's a good list there. I always wanted to play Rogue Galaxy but never got around to it, and I must admit I liked Wild ARMs 5 more than WA4. As for Suikoden III and V, they're two of my favorite RPGs of the last generation.

But I also have to add a few more: Shadow Hearts Covenant, which was easily in my top RPG list, along with Dragon Quest VIII, Xenosaga, Valkyrie Profile 2, and Disgaea: Eternal Darkness. But some underrated and under-appreciated RPGs are: Legaia 2: Duel Saga and Atelier Iris: Eternal Mana.

Oh, and Lunar: SSSC is one of my favorite games ever. Lunar 2: Eternal Blue was great, too.

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Barret Wallace

I've had this discussion with many people. If you expect a new console to have RPGs within a year, you will be very disappointed.

RPGs take a long time to develop, and normally don't come out unless a platform has been out for at least two years in Japan (unless a game was developed on another platform and moved or ported).

With the PS1, it didn't get a few good RPGs until 1997 in the U.S. (PS1 was out since late 1994 in Japan). PS1 didn't start to explode in the genre until 98/99.

With PS2, it may have had FFX and Shadow Hearts in just over a year (FFX was like the first PS2 game in development), it took a while for PS2 to get going. IMO, there wasn't a decent selection of RPGs on PS2 until 2003 (PS2 came out in 2000).

With PSP, it's early RPGs were ports (in 2005/2006). It finally started to get good original RPGs this year.

PS3 looks to finally get some RPGs in 2008, and I expect it to have a pretty decent selection in 2009. Although, I honestly feel the RPG selection on PS3 won't be larger like PS1/PS2 (unless it's the dominating console in Japan, but handhelds are dominating in Japan).

Unless you pick up older games on PS1/PS2, handhelds are where the RPGs are for now, but more will start coming to next generation consoles.

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farfus

Woot, ive been enjoying Shadowhearts Conviction for almost 2 weeks now. Every bit as good as the reviews, and its quite epic in size and scope. This is a great time to discover some of the very good to great games of the ps2 that i didnt get the chance to a few years ago!

Ben D.

Shadow Hearts...Covenant? Or Conviction? I've never heard of the latter, but if there's another SH out there, I want to know about it!

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RickyP

Grr...

After attempting to replay Chrono Cross, it turns out it suffers from some very tedious glitches with the PS3. The game has a frequent tendency of freezing mid-element casting sequence.

After some research it turns out this is fairly widespread. Pfft!

farfus

Yeah its Covenant, never really think about it so i dont really have it absorbed yet, although its a fairly absorbing game.........

Ben D.

I loved Covenant. One of my favorite RPGs, actually. The Judgment Ring is just SO much fun, and the Fusion system is excellent. I greatly enjoyed From the New World, too, and while the Ring got another upgrade (better than ever!), I didn't like the story anywhere near as much.

Definitely worth playing if you like Covenant, though.

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