Mr. SunburnMan

I know that (I'm a computer engineer). I just don't know how AI is built up software-wise, because I've never programmed any.

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Arnold K. (Admin)

It doesn't make me sound like anything, when it's the truth. I've spoken to more than one developer on the subject, and they all agree that the GPUs between the 360 and PS3 are nearly identical, but the PS3 outperforms the X360 because of the CPU. A number of high-profile devs told me that the CELL is about 50-60% stronger than Xenon at its full potential.

Mr. SunburnMan

And the xbox's gpu was stronger than the ps2's, the 64's GPU and Saturn's CPUs were both better than the ps1's... big deal. Those details don't matter the consumers directly in the end, because we're dealing with closed platforms here. They're just used as cockwaving when there's nothing else to fall back to in arguments, and are pure fanboy fuels. Much like what our friend at ubisoft did here.

Furthermore, your new claims also don't make it dated. It just makes it less advanced (and less specialized) than a 1 year old CPU.

There's a reason why you don't hear stupid claims like that in the end of a generation. In the end it's the platforms, its features, and games that matter. Not the percentage of extra power a certain console has over its rivals.

Hence my initial statement in this thread.

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Arnold K. (Admin)

That has nothing to do with anything (not talking about 'the current phase' quote). All I'm doing is disproving a BS statement.

Mr. SunburnMan

... while bitchslapping the console of your lesser preference with a clever choice of words. Which brings back this whole phase of the generation thing yet again.

But I am sorry. I am easily annoyed these days.

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Ben D.

...I'm still not sure what you mean by "hating a phase of the generation."

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Darth Koth

I don't come on here as offten as I used to, but when I do why is it I end up reading a comment from sunburn that sounds very anti-PS3 while not in so many words accusing others of being fanboys? he sounds like a fanboy more than anyone.

yes at the end of a gen its the games that made a console successful, what made the games? the developers, developers that got to grips with the platform they were making it for, so if devs can't make AI better on the more powerful console then its thier fault for being shite at what they do. Im very warey of Ubi's software as it is, when they make these silly comments it puts me of anything they produce.

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Mr. SunburnMan

I mean it in the sense smack-talking purely based on hardware. Developpers using public statements such as this guy from UbiSoft are simply made to get the fanboys boiling which brings to more visibility to their games.

Mark Rein a good example for this behaviour too. Yesterday he went on the record to say that the ps3 version of UT3 would have more maps than the 360 version. Boy did it play the fanboys like puppets. Everyone's chanting how much of an idiot he is or how he's a genius. If you remember, last year was the exact same, except that time around, he was praising another system to play with the puppets, and to get attention on his game. And that worked too. The difference is that those guys typically side with one partner and stick to it, but he's just getting attention either way.

They may be successful tactics, but they are total trash, and don't contribute to anything except to give them more visibility (but rather immaturely). Those kinds of statements tend to be extremely frequent in the first 2 years of a generation (remember the Lorne Lanning vs the Naughty Dog guy in 2001-02?). That's why I hate this phase of a console generation.

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Ben D.

As for Rein, read this-

http://forums.epicgames.com/showpost...74&postcount=7

He offered a response to that mess, and from the first paragraph, it's clear he's trying to stop that kind of thing from happening. Also, we have an interview scheduled with Rein for September, so stay tuned for more of his answers...

In regards to the rest, I think you're focusing too much on the fanboy BS. Just because they stir things up doesn't mean they can directly impact the quality of the games developers produce. Most of the time, those statements by developers that you're referring to are NOT intended to get the fanboys all riled up (as evidenced by Rein's response up there). How the gamers interpret those statements is out of their control, and just about ANYTHING can be viewed as being biased these days.

Just don't worry about it. It's good headline news, but in the end every developer has the same goal- create a quality product and make a profit. At its core, fanboy spouting doesn't impact them even one tiny iota, and developers normally don't go out of their way to slam their competition by using such questionable "tactics."

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Mr. SunburnMan

I would agree with you, but it's not like those guys don't know their target audiences. But I know I'm getting grumpier at this every generation.

I prefer the more reserved developers, such at Ted Price. we all know his stance perfectly, but he never stirs shit up.

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