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Old 01-11-2007, 09:47 PM   #21
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Ive had mine on preorder with play.com since July so hopefuly I'll get one at launch whenever that is, march my arse I'll belive it when I see it.
Considering how available the PS3 is here in the U.S., and the fact that Sony has continually said the manufacturing issues are solved (as evidenced by those PS3s on shelves), AND with Ubisoft confirming five titles for the UK PS3 launch...I'd say you can expect it in March.

Publishers really need to know when these systems are coming out to give themselves appropriate target numbers for game shipments. And if there was a chance the PS3 would be delayed, the big publishers (like Ubisoft) would have an inkling by now. I'm not saying a delay can't happen, but this is just how I see it.
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Old 01-11-2007, 10:17 PM   #22
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When MGS4 comes out. Currently Sony has given me ZERO reason to spend $600. MGS4, however, is worth that much to me.
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Old 01-11-2007, 10:58 PM   #23
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With European launch and hot electronic gizmos commanding high price tags (like the iPhone at $600 w/2 year service contract), I don't see a reason for Sony to drop the price until 2009, maybe 2008 holiday season at best. The drop would probably be $150 at most.

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I think its actually worth waiting at least till this time next year or later in 08. The price is going to take a drastic drop eventually, and the game library will be proven by then, not to mention most of the bugs taken out of the system. Just makes sense all around, and im sure what im missing can be made up easily...
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Old 01-11-2007, 11:04 PM   #24
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With European launch and hot electronic gizmos commanding high price tags (like the iPhone at $600 w/2 year service contract), I don't see a reason for Sony to drop the price until 2009, maybe 2008 holiday season at best. The drop would probably be $150 at most.
Sony will drop the price THIS holiday season, because they will need to.

I'll bet you lunch on it, Val. If Sony doesn't drop the price by November of this year, I will literally fly to New York and buy you lunch.
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Old 01-11-2007, 11:22 PM   #25
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Get that lunch money ready

PS3 will be hot the next holiday for 4 reasons:
  • Its the first holiday season PS3 is out in Europe
  • The US market wasn't satisfied during the short supplies for the 2006 holidays, so that will spill over into the 2007 PS3 demand
  • Finally some more good games
  • The 2005 and 2006 season were all about HDTVs, so you got all these people with shiny new HDTV screens and they won't want to settle for the fairly poor quality of DVDs. That means one thing, in 2007 those people will want HD players, and PS3's Blu-Ray is still going to be the best deal in town even at $500 or $600.
If its hot, there is no reason for them to drop the price yet.

Plus, Xbox 360 price didn't drop after 1 year and Sony has been extremely tight with price reductions on the PSP, and a price reduction is definitely warranted for the PSP especially with the low cost of Nintendo portables.

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Sony will drop the price THIS holiday season, because they will need to.

I'll bet you lunch on it, Val. If Sony doesn't drop the price by November of this year, I will literally fly to New York and buy you lunch.
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Old 01-11-2007, 11:25 PM   #26
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Oh snap it's ON, Val!

I see the big thing being momentum. Sony just doesn't have it right now and MS is giving KILLER deals on the 360. Sony will need more than Blu Ray and a few AAA games to recover the momentum they need. They're going to need a price drop.

If you lose, you'll get to fly out to San Fran and buy ME lunch Of course, while you're out here we can go interview some developers and you can write the whole thing off as a business expense
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Old 01-12-2007, 01:11 AM   #27
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I make no predictions, but you guys should probably clarify...are you talking about a possible price drop in 2007 in the UK or the U.S.? What happens if it drops in one place and not the other, like when Sony dropped the price of the 20GB PS3 in Japan for launch?

Personally, by looking strictly at the sales numbers for the PS2 and PSP - especially in the UK - and the MUCH better launch lineup scheduled for the UK PS3 launch, I have difficulty thinking Sony has lost much in the way of momentum. They never really had any going into the launch, anyway, not with the 360 already out; Sony begins this generation playing catch-up in the first place.

But I also believe the PS3 will sell just fine this year, in all regions. You might find them on the shelves now, but A. it's January. NOBODY has much money after the holidays, and B. good games spur hardware sales. It's that simple. If the PS3 has the games, AND, perhaps just as importantly, the best multiplat versions of games (this will be very helpful if it happens, due to the number of games choosing to go multi this generation), than it will sell. If it sells, Sony will NOT drop that price. With the amount of money they dumped into the thing, and the fact they're STILL losing $200 on each system sold, it would have to take some pretty drastic under-selling for Sony to drop the price this year. That's my two cents.
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X-Squad was a launch title on the PS2 and frankly that game was pretty rank but I still wouldn't want to have missed out playing it. If I had enough to buy a PS3 and a couple of games I'd be more than happy to pick from the selection available. I'd be looking at getting 1 game every few months if that, so having very few AAA titles wouldn't bother me.
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Old 01-12-2007, 03:00 AM   #29
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thats like not playing SSX or Timesplitters on the ps2 for me... these games have to be played!!

for me its R:FOM I must play that game then its half life, MGS, GT, GTA... the list is pretty much endless in no particular order.
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Old 01-12-2007, 10:32 AM   #30
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The funny thing is that gta4 is also on 360 (a slim possible MGS on 360 also) so if mgs does go on to the 360 lets say march 2008 (I think there's a ps3 exclusive for 6 months or My bad) then there's only gt5 on the PS3 that I'm looking at.

Of course PGR4 could take some of that (GT5 will be of course a system app for the PS3 as will MGS) but add Halo 3 into that mix and alot of things will happen at Christmas 2007. I think Sony knows that if MGS jumps to 360 also, the only thing that Sony has is GT5 as a killer app.

For HDTV's in Canada, the amount of channels is still crap. The CRTC in Canada loves Canadian programming and limits the amount of USA channels (including HD) that we get. I think that the HD channels will increase in 2007 (not by much) For people to buy a HDTV just for the PS3 could be a factor. I'm still waiting on buying a HDTV cause of the HD content here. Even with the biggest cable outlet in the west (Shaw Cable) they are lacking huge on HD. Here's the list for shaw:

HDTV 301 Sportsnet HD
HDTV 302 Movie Central HD
HDTV 303 KOMO - ABC Seattle HD
HDTV 304 KIRO - CBS Seattle HD
HDTV 305 KING - NBC Seattle HD
HDTV 306 KSPS - PBS Spokane HD
HDTV 307 KCPQ - FOX Seattle HD
HDTV 308 TSN - HD
HDTV 309 CBC - HD
HDTV 311 CFTO - CTV Toronto HD
HDTV 312 Discovery HD
HDTV 313 A&E HD
HDTV 314 National Geographic HD
HDTV 315 Showcase HD

That's not much programming. With those USA channels, the CRTC is pushing that amount of US channels huge. Bell Canada, Star Choice, Videotron and Rogers offer the same amount and maybe 2 or 3 more. I know that watching HD on tv is only a small aspect of getting a HD tv cause of HD-DVD and Blue-Ray, but you guys know that TV is a big part of HDTV's also.

So in my mind, just buying a HDTV for the PS3 or even the 360 (I'm happy with my reg 32inch tv due to the cables providing a wicked picture) the content on HD for tv viewing and me not buying a single HD-DVD or blu-ray movie until the format war is resolved (Even then, I'm still not happy about my DVD collection going the way of VHS sooner or later) I won't get a HDTV until I'm certain I need one. The stand alone 360 HD-DVD player is not even on my list due to the fact that there's only a couple of movies that I'm interested in and even then they are re-releases in that format.

Of course new 24 season starting Sunday in HD would be a :O! I won't get one.

My 2 cents and some change from my couch :P
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