Sex is Bad!!

[Gabriel013]

This seems to be the opinion of many including those who are outraged at the recent hot coffee discovery.

I don't think this way at all and so I want to know why that could be.

All my life I've been allowed to watch any film I liked, whatever the content. The reasoning was, if I was old enough to understand it then I was old enough to see it. I guess the only exception to this would be hardcore pornography and this was simply because my family never had any at the time.

My parents have always been very open and discuss any subject with my sister or I and we were brought up not to be embarassed to ask.

In summary, from a very early age my parents treated me (mostly) like an adult and gave me the respect accordingly. They guided me but left me to decide what was right or wrong for me to do.

I don't smoke
I drink occassionally
I don't have a criminal record
I have a good, respectable job
I have respect for most people unless they prove they don't deserve it
More to the point, keeping the conversation connected to societies apparent persecution of sexual content, I do watch porn and violent films, I have a healthy respect for women, I respect sex and the fact that the act itself should be for 2 people who truly care for each other and should just be something you are expected to have on a Friday night out.

I think I am proof that treating young teenagers as adults and not censoring everything they see/hear is not going to bring an end to society, in fact as long as the parents do their job properly in guiding their offspring society could even be improved.


I want to know the views of forum members on sex vs violence and how, if at all, they feel their upbringing could have brought them to this opinion.

[farfus]

I remember growing up in the 60's and 70's and enjoying watching British programming when i could because it seemed less restrictive and nothing seemed taboo compared to here in the U.S. at the time. I think different people respond differently to being exposed to sexual/violent stimulation. Ive always been a mild/subdued kind of person, and like you i dont do many things that would be considered harmful generally. I think i read somewhere though that Britain is considered the most promiscous place on the earth, so i expect if that is true that that result could be indirectly tied to the openess of the sexual/violent society. As far as your parents allowing you to be exposed to pretty much anything at any age, hmmm, not sure, Gabe, there are some subjects that id consider adult really at any age. I wont ever be raising a kid, likely, so what they are exposed to wont be a concern for me. But i do think it influences a very young mind. Kids are very uninhibited nowadays compared to when i was growing up...

[Norrec]

What I don't get....
Games show violence, murder, death, crime, vandalism, and so forth, and reward the player for following through with them. Games like this are often rated T, and many times M, and often are played by highschool kids. Many parents see this as okay. These actions, if acted upon in real life, are illegal, and will be punished by the law.
BUT-
Teenagers, many from 14 up, have sex during highschool. With or without games. They see vagina, penis, boobies *giggle* and they do what they want with it, usually in a respectable way, because they are young and don't take it far sometimes. This is legal. Who's going to stop people from having sex? Maybe try to direct them to having safe sex, but you can't stop something natural to people.

Conclusion: Killing in videogames is acceptable, but seeing sex is something horrendous? First off, unless someone went out of their way to hax0r the fux0r of the game to unlock things otherwise unattainable, this content isn't available. WHO THE F-CK CARES. It's like Gran Turismo 3. Wasn't there that car in the Japanese version, that wasn't in the American (maybe UK) versions because they couldnt obtain rights for it here? If you used a saved game from the internet or used a cheating device, you could get it.
Did Polyphony get sued for using a car that they didn't have rights to? Not that I recall.

Anyways, I guess I made my point, I don't even know if I did, but I don't feel like reading what I wrote to check. I think it was the 'who the f-ck cares' thing.

I didn't buy San Andreas and probably won't, I've played it, and its not for the content I won't buy it, its because I really didn't enjoy the game at all, but I support it in this whole mishap of old people taking advantage of a situation they should be responisble for partially.

[Mista]

I didn't even read any of the 3 post fully so excuse my ignorance...The world is crazy stupid ( that's right crazy and stupid ) at least 1/3 of ppl are *******s, 1/3 are nice and normal, and 1/3 is dirty filty thieves looking to make a quick buck on anyone and anything....

Actually I just watched Team America the other day and what that guy at the bar said is EXACTLY TRUE!! The worlds full of DICKS, *******S , and PUSSIES. Theres my own lil rant to add to yours Norrec...don't care if I have a point, sometimes everyone needs a good rant.

[PlaystationFan]

Personally, I am open about everything. Rarely does anything every offend me.

I also believe with a passion that everyone should be able to experience things for themselves. Censoring everything is not going to help. Until people are forced to take responsibility for there actions, things will never change.

Isn't it funny that a huge percentage of the people who are offended by adult content claim that they didn't know about it.

Well, thats the damn problem. Parents don't give a **** what the content of a game is until they see or hear something they dislike. If only they would turn the damn case over and read, they could avoid these problems.

But no, people in this damn world would rather fly into everything and they don't care at all. And it sickens me.

Tell me how many of us here actually wen't our whole lives without seeing pornagraphic material before movies or games. Hell, I can't remember the first time I looked at a playboy or something else.

Bottom line is, if you have a good head on your shoulders. And you actually care about what you do with your life. Nothing is going to change your outlook.

[Lefty Grove]

I guess some kids can't handle it like others can. Or maybe the parents can't handle it like others can.

[Majesty]

my parent's used to be conservative, and some of my family still are. It changed now since nowadays sex, violence, and reality show are on tv's and internet. Its nothing new. its completely normal here in newyork. But i still don't get why some conservatives (and some media) blame videogames and music for all (well, not all) the violence here in america.

[svosen]

It's a loop of sorts, only it does seem to get progressively worse, rather than just going in circles.

That is to say, the prevailing attitudes, norms, and values drive entertainment drives attitudes, norms, and values, drive entertainment drives attitudes, norms, and values, drive entertainment...

We're all collectively to blame for the way things are, while at the same time we're just products of the way things are.

Which is probably a simplistic take on the situation, but possibly a good start at understanding it.