$600 For PS3 not so bad? - Page 3

Cowboy22 · 08-22-2006, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. SunburnMan

As I said, if you're fully equipped and know what HD means and looks like, you're probably going to get an awesome deal out of it. But for the majority of the people - I still think it's overkill - unless the HD numbers change drastically in the next two years (which is what sony is banking on, of course).

I agree with this. I'm sure if I had HDTV and gave a crap about Blu-Ray then I wouldn't mind the price but I don't and I don't, so the price seems crazy to me. And I would think that the majority of people (not here obviously, but in general) are on the same page as me, but maybe I'm way off. We'll see.

Darth Koth · 08-22-2006, 10:36 AM

To my mind blu-ray has to come in and take over from DVD, an 8 gig disc won't cut it before long and just think how many formats we'd end up with if the jumps in size were smaller and new types of player were required, sony hit's us with a 50 gig disc that could last forever as far as movies are concerned, I can't see them looking any better in the next 25 years.

I just hope sony pull it off.

Cowboy22 · 08-22-2006, 10:55 AM

I dunno, I just don't get the impression that the public in general is all that upset with DVD as a format, at least not enough to want to make the switch to an entirely new kind of player. Not for movies anyway. I know I'm not.

Darth Koth · 08-22-2006, 02:49 PM

Agreed, I don't think people are upset with DVD and that's why it'l be a struggle to convince people that it would be better to upgrade in the long run, that and the price.

psxextreme · 08-22-2006, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Cowboy22

I dunno, I just don't get the impression that the public in general is all that upset with DVD as a format, at least not enough to want to make the switch to an entirely new kind of player. Not for movies anyway. I know I'm not.

I agree, the general public isn't interested in anything more than DVD quality right now, but that will change within 1-2 years. HDTVs are selling like hotcakes already and prices on these TVs are going down fast, which means more and more people will be buying them. Eventually these people will want to get the most out of their HDTVs, and upgrading to nex-gen media such as HD-DVD and Blue-Ray is inevitable.

Gabriel013 · 08-22-2006, 04:01 PM

I'm not hyped over Blu Ray and HD but when I see my mate running that sort of setup I recon my standard tv and dvd setup will start to look poor.

I thought VHS was good until I saw dvd movies running.

Darth Koth · 08-22-2006, 06:29 PM

You thought VHS was good? I knew you needed glasses earlier on in life.

Mr. SunburnMan · 08-22-2006, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by psxextreme

I agree, the general public isn't interested in anything more than DVD quality right now, but that will change within 1-2 years. HDTVs are selling like hotcakes already and prices on these TVs are going down fast, which means more and more people will be buying them. Eventually these people will want to get the most out of their HDTVs, and upgrading to nex-gen media such as HD-DVD and Blue-Ray is inevitable.

I'm not even sure about that. I'm thinking it probably won't happen for a long time - probably not until the next-next generation of movie formats. Formats (music, movies) have always succeeded when they gave a substancial upgrade over their predecessessors. I don't see HD-DVD and Blue-Ray doing that at all. They have no new features over the existing standard (unless you consider HD a new feature) - and that's what the mass consumers are looking for.

Now - the industry might phase them into the DVD market as they grow cheaper, which is what I think will happen - but that's not going to happen in the next two years.

Cowboy22 · 08-22-2006, 11:11 PM

Pretty much my thoughts as well. DVD was a HUGE jump over VHS. Blu-ray and HD-DVD over DVD? Not so much.

Ryan H. · 08-22-2006, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. SunburnMan

I'm not even sure about that. I'm thinking it probably won't happen for a long time - probably not until the next-next generation of movie formats. Formats (music, movies) have always succeeded when they gave a substancial upgrade over their predecessessors. I don't see HD-DVD and Blue-Ray doing that at all. They have no new features over the existing standard (unless you consider HD a new feature) - and that's what the mass consumers are looking for.

Now - the industry might phase them into the DVD market as they grow cheaper, which is what I think will happen - but that's not going to happen in the next two years.

An estimated 89% of all TVs sold this year will be HDTVs, according to several sources I've read. As prices go down more people can AFFORD TO CARE, and they will. When HDTVs were well over $2,000 I simply couldn't afford one, so I didn't really care about their capabilities. Now that, by the end of the year, I'll be able to get one for several hundred dollars instead of several thousand, I'll be in the market for one, so those capabilities are going to start interesting me.

When you're making a console that's going to last several years at a time when HDTV is getting affordable and common, you need to provide a medium to take advantage of that, which is what Sony is trying to do. To get similar functionality out of your Xbox 360 you'll end up paying the same anyway, after you drop $200 on their HD-DVD add-on. The price for what Sony (and now MS) is offering is not really that outlandish.

The problem is that Sony isn't making these things clear, they're not pointing out the logic behind their move. It's why I was so disappointed in Sony at E3 and why I blasted them in my editorial. Instead of hyping how awesome their PS3 is, they need to point out the NEED for it to be that awesome over the next five years.

If they successfully do that, people will stop bitching about the price. Until they do, people aren't going to shut up about it.

08-22-2006, 04:01 PM	#26
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08-22-2006, 10:36 AM	#22
Darth Koth Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sheffield, England PS3 Network ID: DarthKoth Posts: 692	To my mind blu-ray has to come in and take over from DVD, an 8 gig disc won't cut it before long and just think how many formats we'd end up with if the jumps in size were smaller and new types of player were required, sony hit's us with a 50 gig disc that could last forever as far as movies are concerned, I can't see them looking any better in the next 25 years. I just hope sony pull it off.

08-22-2006, 10:55 AM	#23
Cowboy22 Giddy up, bitch! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Iowa Posts: 2,998	I dunno, I just don't get the impression that the public in general is all that upset with DVD as a format, at least not enough to want to make the switch to an entirely new kind of player. Not for movies anyway. I know I'm not.

08-22-2006, 02:49 PM	#24
Darth Koth Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sheffield, England PS3 Network ID: DarthKoth Posts: 692	Agreed, I don't think people are upset with DVD and that's why it'l be a struggle to convince people that it would be better to upgrade in the long run, that and the price.

08-22-2006, 11:11 PM	#29
Cowboy22 Giddy up, bitch! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Iowa Posts: 2,998	Pretty much my thoughts as well. DVD was a HUGE jump over VHS. Blu-ray and HD-DVD over DVD? Not so much.