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Old 03-08-2003, 12:37 AM   #31
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Yeah true dat, rose was AI and she wasn't who u were talkin to in game..... But yeah, Raiden wasnt all that bad, there have already been 5 games that let you be the legendary solid snake(including VR missions)I think it was a nice change to fight along side Solid Snake as Raiden....Too bad Hideo Kojima already stated that Raiden was just a one time character....But then again he also said hes not gonna Make anymore Metal Gear games.....well to be perfectly honest I dont know what the Hell is going on anymore....Except I read in the New OPM that they overheard them remaking the original Metal Gear with the new graphics engine, just so new people to the series can follow the story better, now that would rule!!!!
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Old 03-08-2003, 02:30 AM   #32
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First of All, MGS2: SoL is tied with MGS to be my favorite game of all time. Granted, at first when Raiden was introduced, I was a little bummed that I didn' get to play the entire game controlling my favorite gaming character, But really he was the best addition that could have been made to the series.
Hideo Kojima addressed this "new character crisis" by saying that Solid Snake was still the main chatacter int he game, but he was meant to be seen in a different perspective. I don't belive an idea of character development such has this has ever been seen, and it really is spectacular. If you all remember from Metal Gear, Solid Snake was a rookie, he was "green", and Frank Jaeger, (Grey Fox) showed him the ropes. Later on in the series, you must defeat Grey Fox, showing that the "student had surpassed the master", and that Solid Snake truely was now a "veteran". In MGS, Solid Snake has all the questions about his true identity answered. Now in MGS2: SoL we see Solid Snake showing Raiden, the new rookie the ropes. The whole series shows the development of Solid Snake. Even if you hated this game, the fact remains that in terms of character devleopment, its unsurpased. (Although Rose was just annoying at times, she played a vital part in the plot, as well to keep true the feeling of MGS with a female support character. ) Last of all, MGS2 rocks, and now I have to go buy Substance.
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Old 03-08-2003, 03:05 PM   #33
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Raiden was a great character. While he may not be as cool as Soild Snake, he shows much more emotional depth. Raiden is confused, scared, and unsure of himself, emotions that Snake almost never shows. These things make Raiden a MUCH more interesting character IMO. You feel more of an emoitional connection with him.

I also agree that Rose was annoying as hell, even if it was intentional since she was a bot and all. The last thing I want to hear when I'm in the middle of a fight is her bitching and moaning about how I don't remember what day it is, and that I don't love her. Still as annoying as Rose was she pails in comparison to Otacon's sister (her name escapes me..) in terms of being irritating. "I can't walk by myself, I can't swim, I'm scared of bugs!!!" DAMN BITCH! I'm not sure how many times I had to do the swimming part before I finnally beat it because she kept ****ing dying. While I realize that she acted like someone her age probably would in that situation, she still pissed me off to the point where I either wanted to let her drown or shoot her. The funny thing is that while she was very irritating, her death remains the most emoitional scene in the whole game.
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Old 03-08-2003, 06:08 PM   #34
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You do know Cowboy, that on the swimming bit, you can go up for air??

I haven't played the game for ages, I don't remember about the stroy, I skipped most of the codec calls, and the bit when Emma died, though I didn't actually want to. And i can tell you one thing, when Otacon and Snake do that handshake, my friend invented one EXACTLY the same as it WAY before it was released, is that coincidence or what??
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Old 03-08-2003, 09:40 PM   #35
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smart ass.....but yes I do realize you can go up for air, but there's quite a bit of room between the spots you go for air in, then again maybe I just suck....
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Old 03-08-2003, 10:03 PM   #36
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At first i felt a little disapointed that I didnt get to play as Snake but I got over once Snake came back(right away).Raiden was the best possible way to build Sanke's character and it makes you even respect him.
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Old 03-08-2003, 10:37 PM   #37
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You do know Cowboy, that on the swimming bit, you can go up for air??

I haven't played the game for ages, I don't remember about the stroy, I skipped most of the codec calls, and the bit when Emma died, though I didn't actually want to. And i can tell you one thing, when Otacon and Snake do that handshake, my friend invented one EXACTLY the same as it WAY before it was released, is that coincidence or what??
No, you're just like the 20 million other people do the same shit.
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