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Old 11-19-2004, 05:41 PM   #22
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Default Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Now that Ive cooled off....

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Originally posted by KCAA



I also didn't say that just because Bush got elected means we're in a theocracy. Although, it does make it a bit more obvious, in a sense. [ There's just no way a president could serve 4 years with an economy like it was/is, the unemploment rise because of outsourcing, which he supports, and the war., and be reelected. Look back at history. His father for one. It came down to moral votes. Thats what im getting at.

Voters should put aside their religious beliefs. They need to vote on the issues, not listen to the effing Church tell them what todo because God will strike them down if they don't, or they'll go to hell. Correct me if im wrong, but if you were running for president you wouldn't want the church saying that to against you now would you?

Im not ignorant.
Unemployment has been at 5.5% or 5.4% all year, and was lower than when Clinton was elected in 1996, when it was at 5.6%

During the month after the 9/11 attacks, we lost one million jobs, and less than a third were to outsourcing. The biggest cause in job loss, for both us and the rest of the industrialized world, is increased productivity. A 1% increase in productivity obviates the need for about 3 million jobs. A great example is the steel industry, which today has almost half the employees it had in 1988, yet they produce 17% more steel.

Japan and Brazil suffer from this even worse than we do.

Additionally, the recession was inherited by Bush, not caused by him. The dot com bubble burst in March of 2000, dropping by over 31% in less than 30 days, stagnating the stock market which, coupled with decreases in business spending due to Y2K and other issues of paramount importance, caused a steady decline in the economy that bottomed out in November of that year.

As for Bush 41, his approval rating after the war was 91%, the highest ever, I believe. It made him complacent, and he basically failed to campaign as he thought he had re-election in the bag.

Add Ross Perot to the mix, who took away a sizeable chunk of the electorate, and Clinton wins in 1992 with a mere 42% of the vote.

Religion is an expression of the fundamental beliefs and values of a man; it's not something you can put aside when deciding the issues, because your faith is a reflection of who you are, and to put aside your religious beliefs is to put aside what you hold dear.

It's incredibly ignorant to presume that just because someone is religious that they vote the way their church tells them to.

As for what I would like were I running for president, I certainly wouldn't like a group of people calling me evil and stupid, as Bush was labeled repeatedly throughout the campaign. There were ads comparing him to Hitler, a senator called him 'braindead', Gore accused him of treason, and Maureen Dowd claimed that Bush 'ran a jihad at home so he could run a jihad overseas'.

I wouldn't like the church calling me evil any more than I would like the militant left calling me evil AND stupid. The media has already labeled me and anyone who voted for Bush as 'stupid', as if to say that only morons would vote for the man. Ironically enough, Bush got the MOST popular votes in history, beating our Reagan's turnout in 1984.

So, I'm sorry to say, you ARE ignorant. I don't mean to be arrogant, but every claim you tried to make is indisputably, factually wrong. You and your liberal ideology have been owned by the truth.

Don't believe everything Michael Moore or Jimmy Carville tell you, ok? It just makes you look foolish.
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