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Originally posted by Ryan H.
8. Please don't tell me you think "Native Americans" are actually native, or innocent. We took American land just as indians tried to take it from each other. They warred with each other, they even created regional alliances to more effectively terminate other indians who didn't believe in the same gods and whatnot.
They're also not native, as basic anthropology demonstrates that they migrated from Asia. "Native Americans" are no more native than we are. If they're natives, so were our forefathers.
The self-apologist "Americans persecuted the Native American" shit gets old after awhile. We fought the indians for THE land, not THEIR land, not OUR land. We won, and not because we were evil and devious and dishonorable, but because we had better technology, greater numbers, and better organization.
Far too many liberals want to re-write history to portray all indians as innocent victims of brutal western imperialism. Indians were just like westerners, in that some were good, some were bad, and neither side of the war was 'righteous'.
9. Once again, you're attempting to demonize every person who had a slave as an evil, vicious, violent man, and you're implying that all white men who had black people working for them held those black people as slaves. This particular brand of ignorance really pisses me off.
I suppose you think the Civil War was about slavery, don't you?
10. And so, what? Anyone who had slaves was an evil person? Our founding fathers are evil, vile men? If so, why do you proclaim to want to uphold the constitution they created?
Slavery was way ****ing wrong, and horrible, and at the time a universal concept, one embraced by black men themselves. Remember, we didn't go to Africa, conquer the continent, and steal all the people. Colonialists BOUGHT slaves from BLACK slavetraders, and thus 'black' people share just as much blame for slavery as 'white' people.
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You've got some points. Some are just absurd. Ignorant like you like to say. Native Americans warring against eachother for land. That has NO ground what so ever. Yes, we took the land from them. No way around it. Native might not be the right word as you mentioned.
However, they WERE here first. Argue with that and wow, you will be ignorant.
Yes, the civil war WAS about slavery. I do know what your getting at and I agree partially. I also think we could agree that the Civil War was about slavery but more about keeping the union intact. It was about BOTH.
That's the first ive heard about BLACK slave traders. Im curious about that...any links?